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To twist the past to fit an agenda is intellectually dishonest

To The Daily Sun,

In response to Mr. L.J. Siden of Gilmanton. The question really is not, were we founded as Christian nation, but are we still a Christian nation? Any honest student of history cannot deny the clear and obvious fact that America was founded by Christian men and women as a Christian Nation. History requires study of the whole time frame and all the people involved. In order to get a true and accurate understanding.

The Federal Constitution may not specifically make reference to God, However every state constitution does. The Federal Constitution was formed by ideas from individual state constitutions of that time. The New Hampshire Constitution Part 1 Article 6 declares that "morality and piety" will be our best and greatest security. Piety is clearly a devotion to God by definition. Has the gentleman from Gilmanton ever cared to read N.H. Governor Josiah Bartlett's Thanksgiving proclamation that was issued in 1793, with the approval of the Executive Council? Josiah Bartlett was a signer of the Declaration of Independence. This proclamation clearly was not a benign secular pluralistic proclamation, but wholly Christian in nature and context and content. They were not the words of someone and a people who believed in a Godless secular government, nor does our N.H. State Constitution advocate for the same as I mentioned earlier. Both urge dependence on God Almighty the one True God. Has the gentleman from Gilmanton ever cared to read George Washington's farewell address to the nation? He states, "The name of American, which belongs to you in your national capacity, must always exalt the just pride of patriotism more than any appellation derived from local discriminations. With slight shades of difference, you have the same religion, manners, habits, and political principles. You have in a common cause fought and triumphed together."

Did you see what he said? "same religion manners and habits" Clearly that is Christianity. Did you also know that the Supreme Court in the Holy Trinity vs. United States Feb 29, 1892 Justice Brewer declared "America is a Christian nation". Does that mean that everyone must be Christian? Certainly not. But it recognizes that our laws are based on Christian Judeo foundations. Have you cared to read Calvin Coolidge's speech on the 150th Anniversary of our Declaration of Independence? He states regarding our Founders, "They were a people who came under the influence of a great spiritual development and acquired a great moral power." He admonishes us to follow their example stating, "We live in an age of science and of abounding accumulation of material things. These did not create our Declaration. Our Declaration created them. The things of the spirit come first. Unless we cling to that, all our material prosperity, overwhelming though it may appear, will turn to a barren sceptre in our grasp. If we are to maintain the great heritage which has been bequeathed to us, we must be like-minded as the fathers who created it. We must not sink into a pagan materialism. We must cultivate the reverence which they had for the things that are holy. We must follow the spiritual and moral leadership which they showed. We must keep replenished, that they may glow with a more compelling flame, the altar fires before which they worshiped."

Daniel Webster, known as one of the greatest orators ever in the U.S. Senate, stated on February 23, 1852 regarding the importance of history, "let me say, gentlemen, that if we and our posterity shall be true to the Christian religion, if we and they shall live always in the fear of God, and shall respect His commandments, if we and they shall maintain just moral sentiments and such conscientious convictions of duty as shall control the heart and life, we may have the highest hopes of the future fortunes of our country ... But if we and our posterity reject religious institutions and authority, violate the rules of eternal justice, trifle with the injunctions of morality, and recklessly destroy the political constitution which holds us together, no man can tell how sudden a catastrophe may overwhelm us that shall bury all our glory in profound obscurity."

Mr. Sidon can debate the current state of our country as to whether or not we are still a Christian nation, but to twist that past to fit an agenda is intellectually dishonest, and shows a lack of study into the writings and lives of the Founding fathers, or just an outright ignorance to historical facts. The only thing we can truly change is the present. He should try sticking to that. Our Founding Fathers and God gave us that right to change if we so choose to do so. But at our own peril. We all have the opportunity to make history, nobody has the right to redefine or change our history. May God continue to bless America. As our national motto states. "One nation under God" at least we used to be.

Gary Torressen

Moultonborough

Last Updated on Friday, 28 November 2014 09:04

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A personal need for the experience of God's love and grace

To The Daily Sun,

You can never change a person who has had an experience, they will always say, "I was there when it happened", "I ought to know". You just don't listen to the likes of James Veverka and his rants and raves, he has never had an experience as yet, of God's love and grace. A Stone Age man had more wisdom than Mr. Veverka, he said the fool has said in his heart, there is no God. Psm 14:1. By the way, the American way is God Bless America and In God We Trust; all my money says that, and every time the Red Sox play a game, we all sing "God Bless America". Period.

You are a real shame to our American way; your money must burn holes in your pocket; our troops will stand to protect us all, and their motto is "For God and Country". God Bless them all.

William Liam McCoy

Belmont

Last Updated on Friday, 28 November 2014 09:01

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Please consider running for position of Gilman Library trustee

To The Daily Sun,

An open letter to the voters of Alton:

For almost seven years I have had the privilege of serving as a trustee of the Gilman Library here in Alton. I would like voters to know that I have decided not to run for another term, and that in March, voters will have an opportunity to elect a new trustee. This is a time when good people of Alton who love the library need to consider if they, or someone they know, might step forward to run for this position.

It would be wonderful if there were several candidates to choose from. I would encourage anyone who uses and loves our Gilman Library, to consider service to Alton by becoming a candidate for this important elected position. Trustees of the Gilman Library are charged with providing leadership, guidance, maintenance, and support for all aspects of this valuable community resource.

Some of the characteristics which would be welcomed on the board include interests in special programs for teens and young adults, innovative ways to involve volunteers in the library, understanding new developments in technology, and, of course, energy, enthusiasm, and willingness to learn.

In order to become a candidate and have your name on the ballot in March 2015, candidates will have to file with the Town Clerk in January 2015. If you might consider running for the office of Library Trustee, please feel free to call me with your questions, contact another trustee, talk with head librarian Holly Brown, or attend one of our meetings.

Thank you for the honor of serving as Trustee of the Gilman Library.

Linda Hess

Alton

Last Updated on Friday, 28 November 2014 08:55

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'You can keep your health insurance!' Was that a big Tea Party lie?

To The Daily Sun,

Scott Cracraft lets it be known he's a U.S. citizen, a veteran, and a taxpayer. Thank you for your service, Scott. You're one of millions of us.

Now as to Scott's letter naming the Tea Party as some kind of radical, big lie, fascist-like organization I must respectively disagree. Can't remember any "big lies" told by the TP. I do remember "If you like your doctor you can keep your doctor" and "If you like your insurance you can keep your insurance." And how about that the Benghazi murders were not a terrorist attack but a peaceful demonstration that got out of hand triggered by some anti Muslim YouTube video? As for some who questioned Obama's citizenship is it really unreasonable to question an unknown candidate with few credentials, no accomplishments of note and sealed records? I don't think so, and still wonder why he had to seal all his collage stuff if all is on the up and up?

Obama has proven to be a serial liar over the past few years, which gave rise to the Tea Party whose expressed complaint is they want the law and Constitution followed which they deemed Obama and progressives were not, and there is certainly enough circumstantial evidence to leave the question open to argument. Perfectly reasonable in my opinion, as is their concern over the ever-growing national debt. So what exactly is radical about that Scott?

When has the TP attacked the poor; their only complaint is you liberals are creating thousands and thousands more and with jobs scarce allowing hundreds of thousands more unskilled needy aliens into the country. Compassion is one thing, but destroying the middle class and throwing millions of our own citizens into poverty just for political power is criminal, I think. And yes, that is exactly what Democrats are doing.

Gridlock? Well I guess Scott never heard that 300 bills were passed by the House and sent to the Senate where Harry Reid quashed them, never even allowing them to go to committee for debate. Why, because Harry didn't like them. Okay for Harry and Dems to refuse to pass legislation they don't like but not for Repubs? Get real. Congress is not a rubber stamp for any one party or president.

Tea Party violence? When, where? Now that's just plain bull, Scott. Liberals keep bringing up that red herring every so often even though there is no history of any conservative group resorting to violence unlike left wing mobs and thugs. Even now left-wing agitators are responsible for Ferguson burning and mayhem. Just can't stand the rule of law or that all real evidence supports it was just and right.

All told, it appears to me the left will use any excuse, any lie or distortion to steal power then blame anyone or anything else for the harm it does to those they proclaim they are helping.

Steve Earle

Hill

Last Updated on Friday, 28 November 2014 08:49

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Majority of Founders were not traditional Christians, but Deists

To The Daily Sun,

Some recent letters have made inaccurate and misleading claims about the relationship between religion and government in America.

One writer claimed that the government forbids the teaching of creation. Not true. Creationism can be taught in a class about religions. But it cannot be taught in a science class; because it's not science. It's faith. Virgin birth is not included in a biology course for the same reason. The same letter said that schools "indoctrinate" students in the "theory of evolution." I would hope that evolution is taught in a science class. Students deserve a real education, based on 21st Century knowledge, not something stalled in the 18th Century. Evolution is a "theory" only in the same way gravity is a theory. It's tested, and based on facts and evidence. Those who still don't believe in evolution keep company with those who also believe that the earth is 7,000 years old, that the sun and planets revolve around it, and that if you sail too far west of Hawaii you'll fall off the edge of the world.

Another letter argued that some of the fundamentals of our country like the idea of a democratic republic and the rights of citizens are Christian principles. Actually our founding fathers derived them primarily from Enlightenment ideas, which were, among other things, a response to the authoritarianism of Christian kings and clergy throughout Europe. Christians in power opposed concepts like democracy and freedom of conscience and religion. They saw them as dangerous to their rule. A phrase later used to sum up this attitude was "error has no rights." Those supposed errors included separation of church and state, republicanism, and democracy. Ideals like natural rights and the social contract were not found in the prevailing European Christian theories of government. And so-called Christian principles that are found in our government can be found in the writings of all major religions, non-Christian Greek and Roman philosophy, some native American societies and among people who believe in no religion. They aren't exclusive to Christianity.

The basic problem is the ongoing attempt to peddle the claim that American is a "Christian nation." But the only mention of religion in the Constitution is in Article VI, which prohibits any religious test for holding office, and in the 1st Amendment, which prohibits Congress from passing any "law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting its free exercise..." The Constitution is a "Godless" document by design, and the writers deliberately left the word "God" out of it. They did not believe that America should be a Christian nation governed by the Bible. They believed strongly in the separation of church and state, knowing — given their knowledge of history — that mixing religion and government was a recipe for disaster. Jefferson wrote that "our civil rights have no dependence on our religious opinion, any more than our opinions in physics or geometry."

The "Christian nation" argument is also based on the overly broad assertion that the founders and signers of the Constitution were Christians. The majority of them were not traditionalist Christians but were Deists, who believed in the God of the natural world. Many of them did not believe that Jesus was God. Washington, Jefferson, Madison, Adams and the rest would have considered today's preachers like Pat Robertson, Bennie Hinn, Tim LeHaye, James Dobson and their ilk to be crazy, or corrupt con men. Or both.

If we use the same shaky logic used by the "Christian nation" apologists, we could just as easily conclude some other falsehoods:
— The founders were all white. Therefore America is a whites-only nation, established upon the principles of racial exclusion.
— The founders were all men. Therefore America is a male-only nation, founded upon the principles of male domination and the exclusion of women from public life.
— Most of these "Christian" founders were slaveholders or supported allowing slavery to continue in the new nation. Therefore America is a slaveholding nation, founded upon the principles of slavery.

The claims that the United States is a Christian nation are based on twisted evidence and logic. They are also often thinly-veiled attempts to turn America into a theocratic country, where religious dogmas replace the Constitution, where our long-established cherished principles are discarded, and where one religious group tries to force everyone to live according to its sectarian creed.

Ed Allard
Laconia

Last Updated on Friday, 28 November 2014 08:43

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